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Not used section to tbe presised[edit]

Ellin asked me on my talk about some DRs which I closed to explain them. These DRs were some duplicated files in different formats. I told here that I keep them because of history and because some people outside of wikimedia could prefer the jpg format instead of png and svg formats. Now she asks to eventually specify this not used policy. I'd like to know if we need that or not.--Sanandros (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

So as nobody answered I'm changing now the policy.--Sanandros (talk) 20:57, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Contemporary two-dimensional artwork within the scope[edit]

I've been thinking. Does an artwork have an educational value, or is it used to self-promote one's own artwork? How about File:Carré.JPG, which is unused in any mainspace page of any project? George Ho (talk) 07:48, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Village Pump discussion about "obvious educational use"[edit]

There has been some discussion about a proposal at the village pump about the examples in COM:NOTUSED. I just came across this section in the archive about the example under debate ("Artwork without obvious educational use, including non-educational artwork uploaded to showcase the artist's skills." in COM:NOTUSED). It seems as if this change was made with mixed support. I'd like to continue the discussion either here or at the village pump (linked above). Ideally, we would have the discussion in a centralized place (the pump), but that discussion is quite long so I understand if it would be easier to start fresh here. Thanks. ~ PaulC/T+ 17:32, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@Psantora: Please, not again.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 22:44, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I don't understand. Did I do something wrong? I realize that this example has been discussed in the past, but there is no clear consensus on it that I've been able to find. The actual rule is very clear "Must be realistically useful for an educational purpose." and intentionally very broad. The example is much more specific and I and others don't think it is appropriate considering the actual rule and other aspects of the project scope. I know that you disagree. That is fine, we all have our opinions. ~ PaulC/T+ 06:14, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Psantora: No, it's just that I thought the discussion here was over and done with.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:21, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Can I upload for this purpose?[edit]

I'm not sure if many of you are familiar with NationStates, but it's a pretty fun government simulator. It's a universal fact that pictures make things more interesting (I'm pretty sure the people of WikiMedia can agree with that). It's also a fact that WikiMedia has a lot of pictures, some pictures which have provided me with the flag of my nation to the exterior of the parliament of my nation. Problem is, WikiMedia doesn't have everything. It could have everything, and that's why I'm here today with this question which I apologize for taking so long to get to: Can I upload pictures related to NationStates here? I know, I know, it doesn't really play a major purpose, but let me find a loophole...aha! The first bullet, "we can accept most images that you create entirely by yourself, so long as your image does not itself depict another copyrighted work." The only things in my pictures which might be copyrighted are national flags and government buildings, but those are already in the public domain, right? So that's one bird killed, hopefully. The second bullet, "self-created artwork without obvious educational uses." Now I think the uses are obvious in my case, they're being used for NationStates! Now, unless my interpretation of WikiMedia rules are right I will refrain from uploading any pictures of mine until I hear otherwise, and if I am wrong and I still cannot be allowed to upload to WikiMedia I will proceed using my old method, uploading to ol' Imgur. I hope to hear from someone soon :)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledge-sponge (talk • contribs) 00:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
  • National flags as such are [almost?] never copyrighted, although particular representations of them may be. Government buildings often are copyrighted -- it depends on how old, what country, etc. -- and if they are copyrighted and in a country that lacks freedom of panorama for buildings, then any picture of the building violates copyright. Even if the building is not copyrighted, then any individual photo of it (except a very old one) would be, and would have to be licensed by its copyright holder.
  • All of your own original work that is not {{PD-ineligible}} is copyrighted, though of course you can free-license that.
  • I don't know enough about the game to say whether the materials you've produced would qualify as educational or not. It would probably make sense for you to upload a small number of each type of images you are considering uploading, and ask for review to see if there is anything you should be doing differently or if some of this content is not appropriate at all, rather than expend a lot of effort on something that might be reversed. - Jmabel ! talk 01:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

my objection[edit]

Magog the Ogre,

I received a message that you flagged my work for deletion so I am responding to ask that you reconsider your recommendation. I feel that your decision is unfair and infringes upon my rights. Did I say anything that you perceived to be offensive? Please advise.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by J.M. Romans (talk • contribs) 15:55, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
@J.M. Romans: This is the wrong way to reach Magog the Ogre. You should be able to contact that user by posting a new section to User talk:Magog the Ogre or by addressing the issue with File:Mainline Protestants -- A Vision for the Future.pdf in a post to Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mainline Protestants -- A Vision for the Future.pdf.
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