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melonbread
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Post Machine not recognizing paper size, distortion in straight lines.
on: March 10, 2013, 13:09
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Hello!

I received my Polargraph SD kit recently and finally had time this weekend to put the things together. Everything went together smoothly. I measured out my machine (810mm wide, 1072 high), put this information into the controller, and uploaded it to the machine. The console said that it had received the information. Next, i set the home point, which was fine.

This is where it all went haywire, I tried the "move pen to point" function, and all that managed to do was move it a little bit lower, and to the left. Thinking this was a bit strange, I tried a few other points as well - I realised the drawing area was very small.

To test this, I loaded a SVG of a rectangle a bit smaller than my paper. The attached image is what it drew. As you can see, it's a bit trapezoid, and it is definitely way smaller than my actual paper (I've marked out the shape in red here, apologies for the blurry photograph).

I checked the power supply, and that seems to be working fine, in the right polarity, with the right tip. Changing this around did not help at all, so I'm at a loss as to what has happened. Really hoping someone can help me, and that it's just a newbie error somewhere!

Thanks in advance,

Jannette
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sandy
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Post Re: Machine not recognizing paper size, distortion in straight lines.
on: March 10, 2013, 14:14
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Hi Jannette, glad you got it safely - looks more neatly installed than any I've ever done 🙂 And thanks for the pics - very helpful.

Right, the issue is probably the the stepsPerRev and the stepMultiplier value - for the polargraphSD stepsPerRev should be 400, and the stepMultiplier should be 8. (800 and 1 are for the non-SD version of the polargraph.) Now, changing these values in the controller using the number spinners might mess all your other dimensions up, so either be prepared to re-enter them, or you can edit the default.properties.txt file manually and change the lines to:
machine.motors.stepsPerRev=400.0
machine.step.multiplier=8

That's what I tend to do. Then re-save, and re-upload machine spec, and hopefully that's your issue.

Good luck!
sandy noble

melonbread
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on: March 10, 2013, 14:40
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Hi Sandy, thank you so much for the quick, intercontinental reply!

I have adjusted it and all seems to be working smoothly! Huge sigh of relief. I will leave a drawing running overnight and see how that goes.

Thanks so much again 🙂

Jannette

klausz
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Post Re: Machine not recognizing paper size, distortion in straight lines.
on: June 15, 2013, 23:21
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Dear All,
that was also my problem. I had been looking up the specs of the stepper motors etc. Possibly because of my bad english I did not get the idea, that I have to change the multiplier from 1 to 8.
@Janette, thanks for asking.
@Sandy, we should pass this information more easy to the people.
The good thing. The more I work on this machine - from time to time I am busy with other issues in other areas - the more it becomes an open box.
Hopefully soon I will understand the programs but also the hardware. Re-glue-ing the gondola and then everything should be fine (well I am sure issues will come up and there is a lot I can learn).
Greetings,
Klaus

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Post Re: Machine not recognizing paper size, distortion in straight lines.
on: June 15, 2013, 23:42
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Hi Klaus, the details are on the setup pages here on the site - http://www.polargraph.co.uk/setup/polargraphsd-controller-application/ and the first match when googling "set up polargraphsd". That said - there is a lot of stuff out there and I should edit some of it!

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GR4Y50N
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Post Re: Machine not recognizing paper size, distortion in straight lines.
on: June 20, 2013, 05:27
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Hey Sandy,

So I had the Polargraph set up all nice and fine in my spring studio, but a series of terrible things happened to me (lost studio, had my old laptop stolen) So I had to start from scratch with the new controller and a new build.

I've gotten pretty far but with 2 issues that I can't figure out.
1.The machine is printing upside down and 2.with a skew.
I was hoping for some feedback since I can't find anything about upside down printing and the solutions for skewed printing in this thread are not my issues.

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If you need any further images or info please let me know, ALSO thanks for Polargraph, you have totally shifted the game with Ardunio 😀

sandy
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on: June 20, 2013, 11:05
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Hi Grayson, bad luck re studio, that sucks. I can see the artwork you are drawing states your feelings eloquently.

Right, inverted drawings. It usually means the cables have been swapped, either left to right, or the two pairs of wires that go to each motor have been swapped.

In your case, the whole thing is actually rotated 180 degrees which means there are two swaps (single swap would make it only back-to-front OR upside-down). So I think the directions of your motors are reversed, and the actual motors are reversed too. So you have your right hand motor plugged into the left-hand socket, and vice versa. And the sequence of wires in the connection is backwards too. Yours is a little different to most because you have the motors themselves mounted the opposite way. So you have them wired up correctly as if you were using the mounting plates that hold the motor with the shaft facing the wall, but because they have the shaft facing outwards, then all the movements must be reversed.

SO I would first try flipping the entire motor connection. If it is currently motorA-YWBR motorB-YWBR (yellow white blue red), rewire it to be motorB-RBWY motorA-RBWY. Remember to pull the power before unplugging the motors. If that doesn't work and a bit of it is still reversed, I usually try homing, then doing small moves with "move pen to point", strictly up and down, or left to right, and diagnose the problem that way. Think about what direction you would expect the sprockets to turn to move the gondola.

thanks!
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GR4Y50N
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Post Re: Machine not recognizing paper size, distortion in straight lines.
on: June 21, 2013, 01:31
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Swapped out the wires, and viola! It also took care of the skewed drawing as well. I dont know how or why, but nonetheless CHEERS!

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sandy
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on: June 21, 2013, 07:25
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Ha ha! No problem!

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