Hanging-V myths, or I’m not very good at geometry

Well, I am stupid.

Martian Sharpie polargraph

When I designed the first polargraph gondola (above) I thought I was being clever by making the gondola arms (the cords) pivot around a central axis. So this is what I did:

hanging-v-fig1There’s no room for error.  The physical machine reflects the mathematical model.  Sure it’d be much easier to make the cords pivot from points just outside the pen itself.  Easier to design, easier to build, and cheaper, far, far cheaper.  But surely, says I, to do that would end in madness! Dogs and cats living together indeed!:

hanging-v-fig2

 

I mean! How could anyone accept that.  The distance from the notional tip of the hanging triangle and the actual pen itself changes constantly!  Puny humans!

Well, I knew that couldn’t really be true, otherwise how come those gondolas didn’t exhibit hideous geometric distortions?  Like when I used Stuart Childs’s gondola on the Spectrum Arts window?  Ah, don’t think about that, revel in your technical superiority with your elegant radially symmetrical design.  It must have been some weird abberation to do with the size of the surface.  Well done lad.

And maybe just think for a moment, or better still, draw some diagrams to prove the theory:

hanging-v-fig3

 

Aw nuts.  The offset arms fallacy (as I’m calling it) relies on a deeply brainless piece of thinking.  The idea that the hanging triangle always exists, but that the gondola is somehow squeezed up the cords until it finds equilibrium, suspended in that V (fig 2).  As fig 3 shows, that’s cart-before-horse stuff.

AHA, but I still have you! The gondola won’t hang straight all the time – as it traverses the surface, its orientation will change.  It’ll be all over the place! HA!

hanging-v-fig4

 

Double nuts.  BUT, well.  Ha, you thought you had me.  Well, what happens when you’ve got one swing arm joint slightly looser than the other?  Now that’s dangerous territory.

hanging-v-fig5

 

Ok, that’s the worst case I can think up.  With an offset swing-arm design, for any given pair of cord lengths, the actual position of the axis could be off by half the intra-arm-pivot distance.

So forgive me.  This was prompted by Makerblock’s lucid response to my childish chest-beating on his blog.  I don’t know why it took me so long to actually figure this out.

The reason it took so long to figure this out:

Well, the reason this fallacy stuck so long in my head is that I was thinking badly.  I worked on the basis that the machine knows the shape of the triangle.  Therefore it knows the angles of the sides, and the positions of the intersections.   But of course it doesn’t.  All it knows is the length of the sides, and it’s got to figure the rest out from that.

If it somehow knew the angles of the hanging strings, then my misconception would be entirely apt.  It would entirely miscalculate the position of the gondola, based on where it thought the tip of the triangle way.  So it does make sense, after a fashion.

This is an interesting case that illustrates one of the problem with the kind of naive (or isolated) engineering that I do.  It provides the opportunity to simplify things, and get by on “just good enough to work”, but also tolerates faulty thinking (for better or for worse), and if anything gets built on top of faulty thinking, that can end up messy.

I’m still not changing it though.  Central axis FTW!